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Dante Kleinberg

I found this post very interesting, because the reason I'm on your blog is because someone recommended I take your UCLA Extension course. I was thinking about it but sadly I don't have the money at the moment, and I don't think I could get into Novel Writing IV since I haven't taken the first three (though I do have a completed novel I'm shopping around if that counts for anything).

I always love funny stories about crackpots. Keep 'em coming! :-D

susan

I think you're right about this, and liken it to the visual arts. You can teach a group about shapes, colors, and mixing paints, technique, depth, etc., they see the same world (aside from perception) as everyone else, and yet there would definitely be artists and never-gonna-be's in the final showing.

(came here via your brother's weblog)

Eric Mayer

Great entry. I felt compelled to comment on my own blog. When you stop to think about it, why would removing surplus adverbs and the like, actually create anything of interest? I guess it is hard to admit that our own ideas might not be that interesting.

Kristy

I tend to agree with you because I've read lots of books with great premise and sentences but crap characters that do unrealistic things and therefore no matter how many comma's are correctly placed I can honestly say those books suck.

Tanya

You know how amazing it is that so many people who want to be writers don't want to read books. I'd rather read books than write them because my talent is limited. :)

David Zarkin

So Parade does a front page spread this weekend on the Ashton Kutcher-Demi Moore marriage and you got to figure the divorce papers are being served as we speak. What with 4-foot Ricky Ullman of "Phil of the Future" now at puberty, Demi can't ignore that. And Ashton has to know that blonde bombshell of the 50s Mamie Van Doren, although 70, is available. For diehard Mamie fans get "Girls Town" wherein mayhem reigns with three all-time Hollywood tough guys -- Paul Anka, Ray Anthony and Mel Torme. Bring it on.
Re writing: Fellow members of my writing group encouraged me to publish my memories of Boise, but I dither.

Danny Barer

This is a recurring motif in articles about creative writing: An idea isn't a story. A map isn't a vacation.

kate

Anyone who reads can write. To invent something different and new takes an awareness of an inner source which radiates sensations which transform into images which become visions. It's all in the training. With training, one will realize the gift or will realize there are other paths to discover.

Carter

This issue always puts me in mind of Samuel Johnson's remark about women preachers (it may well be apocryphal, I'm too lazy to research it right now): The amazing things is not that they do it well but that they do it at all.

I, for one, hope the creative process remains a mysterious part of human nature. Life is so much more interesting that way. So is reading.

dana

I have to disagree.

Though when you hear my explanation, you'll probably think I agree. I adore black and white, but I believe in the power of the gray area. Not that it matters.

I approach teaching writing as a swim or track coach might approach his job. Each individual brings his or her own best time, best stroke, and unique technique to the track or pool. It is the job of the coach to evaluate where each person is and to help each runner or swimmer improve his or her time (the technical part of writing), while also helping to improve upon his or her technique (the creative side).

If I'm lucky I'll meet one Mark Spitz or Jackie Joyner Kersee who I might help shape, even if only on a microscopic scale. More likely, their creativity will outshine my own and I will end up learning more from them.

So while I disagree that writing can not be taught, I do agree that it is only the few most talented and dedicated individuals who will achieve the goal of becomming represented, published, and produced.

For those not as talented from the starting gate, there is simply not enough time or teachers to help them improve THAT much.

But maybe I will train a future teacher, just as my father who once coached track and baseball spawned future coaches. He was even fortunate enough to coach an All American track star, though the talented runner didn't have the dedication to take his race all the way to the Olympic arena as everyone at the time thought he would.

Maybe it's the dedication and hours spent practicing writing that can not be taught.

dana

Sorry. Quick disclaimer that my "I disagree" line does not pertain to the post preceding it, but rather to Tod's original statement that writing can not be taught. Thanks. I now return you to your original and creative thoughts, already in progress....

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